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From: Howard Marks
Re: Risk and Return Today
A single word is enough to descri be the overall investment world today: lackluster. Stock and
bond returns thus far in 2004 are quite modest virtually across the boa rd. Candid managers
almost everywhere admit there’ s little to buy. In many areas, especially in non-traditional
investments, everyone agrees there’s “too much money chasing too few ideas.” How can everything be priced to provide low returns? Where does this excess money come from? I’ll
provide my explanation below. Pardon me if I start with some rudimentary building blocks.
0BURisk/Return Foundations
The most fundamental assumption underlying invest ment theory and practice today regards the
universality of risk aversion. It is assumed that people dislike risk and prefer safety. The proof
is simple: if a safe investment and risky invest ment – e.g., a 30-day U.S. Treasury bill and a
start-up company’s 30-year bond – both offer a 5% yield, virtually no one will choose the latter.
Thus, if investors are going to bear risk, they must be induced to do so, with the incentive coming in the form of a higher expected return. In short then, the market must set prices such
that investors will expect riskier investments to deliver higher returns. (I have said many times
that those higher returns must not be viewed as dependable; if risky investments could be
counted on to produce higher returns, they wouldn’t be risky. Thus their expected returns must
appear to be higher in order to attract capital , but the higher expected return will always be
accompanied by a range of possible outcomes that is wider and may include losses.)
Because of the assumed correlation between percei ved risk and perceived return potential, the
following graphic has come into widespread us e to depict the market’s basic workings:
RiskReturn
0RiskReturn
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As the graphic suggests, there is a low return th at can be earned on the riskless asset and, from
there, prospective return will rise with prospective risk. Thus we have a “capital market line”
that, as the academics say, “is upward sloping to th e right.” (The “riskles s asset” is generally
felt to be the shortest U.S. Treasury bill, with regard to which investors don’t worry about credit
risk or the risk that inflation will erode the purchasing power of principal before it’s repaid upon
maturity.)
1BUThe Market at Work
I’ll use a “typical” market of a few years back to illustrate how this works in real life: The
interest rate on the 30-day T-bill might have been 4%. So an investor says, “If I’m going to go
out five years, I want 5%. And to buy the 10-year note I have to get 6%.” He demands a higher
rate to extend maturity because he’s concerned a bout the risk to purchasi ng power, a risk that is
assumed to increase with time to maturity. That ’s why the yield curve, which in reality is a
portion of the capital market line, normally slopes upward with the increase in asset life.
Now let’s factor in credit risk. “If the 10- year Treasury pays 6%, I’m not going to buy a 10-
year single-A corporate unless I’m promised 7%.” This intr oduces the concept of credit
spreads. Our hypothetical i nvestor wants 100 basis points to go from a “guvvie” to a
“corporate.” If the consensus of investors feels the same, that’s what the spread will be.
What if we depart from investment grade bonds? “I’m not going to touch a high yield bond
unless I get 600 over a Treasury note of compar able maturity.” So high yield bonds are
required to yield 12%, for a spread of 6 percen t over the Treasury note, if they’re going to
attract buyers.
Now let’s leave fixed income altogether. Thin gs get tougher, because you can’t look anywhere
to find the prospective return on investments lik e stocks (that’s because, simply put, their
returns are conjectural, not “fixed”). But investor s have a sense for these things. “Historically
S&P stocks have returned 10%, and I’ll only buy them if I think they’re going to keep doing
so.” So in theory, the common stock investor determines earni ngs per share, earnings growth
rate and dividend payout ratio and inputs them into a valuation model to arri ve at the price from
which S&P stocks will return 10% (although I’m not sure the pro cess is nearly that methodical
in actuality). “And riskier stocks should return more; I won’t buy on the NASDAQ unless I
think I’m going to get 13%.” From there it’s onward and upward. “If I can get 10% from stocks, I need 15% to accept the
illiquidity and uncertainty associated with real estate. And 25% if I’m going to invest in
buyouts . . . and 30% to induce me to go for vent ure capital, with its lo w success ratio.”
That’s the way it’s supposed to work, and in fact I think it ge nerally does (although the
requirements aren’t the same at all times). The result is a capital market line of the sort that has become familiar to many of us, as shown on the next page.
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●Money Market (4%)5-Year Treasury (5%)10-Year Treasury (6%
)High Grade Bonds (7%)S&P Stocks (10%)High Yield Bonds (12%)Small Stocks (13%)Real Estate (15%
)Buyouts (25%)●Venture Capital (30%)
Risk0Return●
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●Money Market (4%)5-Year Treasury (5%)10-Year Treasury (6%
)High Grade Bonds (7%)S&P Stocks (10%)High Yield Bonds (12%)Small Stocks (13%)Real Estate (15%
)Buyouts (25%)●Venture Capital (30%)
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2BUThe Market at Work – 2004 Version
A big problem for investment returns today stems from the starting point for this process:
The riskless rate isn’t 4%; it’s closer to 1%. Interest rates reached multi-generational lows in
2004. The Fed kept short rates low for much of the year, although they’v e been inching up in
recent months. This was done (a) to stimulate an economy that has been quite sluggish since
the last recession and (b) to protect the economy against nega tive effects from exogenous
shocks, most prominently the corporate scanda ls of 2001-02 and the terro rist attacks of 9/11
(and the possibility of more); in fact, the low rates have been describe d as “emergency rates.”
Our typical investor still wants more return if he’s going to accept time risk, but with the
starting point at 1+%, no w 4% is the right rate for the 10-ye ar (not 6%). He won’t go into
stocks unless he gets 6-7%. And junk bonds may not be worth it at yields below 7%. Real
estate has to yield 8% or so. For buyouts to be attractive they have to appear to promise 15%,
and so on. Thus we now have a capital market line like the one show n below that is (a) at a
much lower level and (b) much flatter .
5-Yr Tre
as. (3%)●●●●●●●●●
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Money Mkt(1%)10-Yr Tre
as. (4%)High Grades (5%)S&P Stocks (6 -7%)High Yield (7%)Small Stocks (7-8%)Real Estate (8%)Buyouts (15%)●VentureCapital (20%)●●●●●●●●●●
05-Yr Tre
as. (3%)●●●●●●●●●
RiskReturn
Money Mkt(1%)10-Yr Tre
as. (4%)High Grades (5%)S&P Stocks (6 -7%)High Yield (7%)Small Stocks (7-8%)Real Estate (8%)Buyouts (15%)●VentureCapital (20%)●●●●●●●●●●
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The lower level of the line is explained by the lo w interest rates, the starting point for which is
the low riskless rate. After al l, the investment thought process is a chain in which each
investment sets the requirement for the next. Ea ch investment has to co mpete with others for
capital, but this year, due to the low interest rates, the bar for each successively riskier
investment has been set lower th an at any time in my career.
3BUWhy a Flatter Line?
Not only is the capital market lin e at a low level today in terms of return, but in addition a
number of factors have c onspired to flatten it. First, investors have fallen over themselves in
their effort to get away from low-risk, low-return investments . When you’re especially
eager not to make safe investment A, it ta kes less compensation than usual (in terms of
prospective return) to get you to accept risky investment B . Because people today are so
motivated to get away from 1% money market investments and 3-4% Treasury notes, they’ll
accept less risk compensation than usual.
Second, risky investments have been very rew arding for more than twenty years and did
particularly well in 2003. With only occasional, easily forgotten exceptions, we’ve seen high
returns from common stocks, low-quality stocks, emerging market stocks, high yield bonds,
distressed debt, private equ ity . . . the list goes on. Thus investors are attracted more (or
repelled less) by risky investments than perhaps might otherwise be the case and require less risk compensation to move to them.
Third, investors perceive risk as being quite limited today. Because rising inflation isn’t
seen as a significant risk, bond investors don’t re quire much of a premium to extend maturity.
And because the combination of a recovering economy and an accommodating capital market
has brought default rates to record lows, investors are unconcerned about credit risk and thus are
willing to accept below-average credit spreads. Prospective return exists to compensate for
perceived risk, and when there isn’t much perc eived risk, there isn’t likely to be much
prospective return .
In summary, to use the words of the “quants,” risk aversion is down. In May 2003 we at
Oaktree began to worry about inve stors’ indiscriminate behavior (of course, we’re usually early
in worrying about overheated markets). We were struck by the rapidity w ith which the terrified
investors of less than a year ea rlier had become confident and a ggressive. “Stressed” bonds that
we had bought at yields of 30% to 70% in the su mmer of 2002 now could be sold at yields of
6% to 9%. Somehow, in that alchemy unique to investor ps ychology, “I wouldn’t touch it at
any price” had morphed into “looks like a solid investment to me.” As a result, money was
flooding out of low-yielding safe investments and in to risky investments that appeared to offer
higher returns (although we didn’t thi nk the returns were high enough).
In response, I wrote a piece called “The Cat, the Tree, the Carrot and the S tick” as part of my
memo “What’s Going On?” published on May 6, 2003. I said I thought the combination of low
prospective returns on safe investments and recent high returns on risky investments was
pushing many investors to dangerously high branches of the investment tree. Those branches are subject to cracking under al l that weight. Therefore, unt il conditions changed, I suggested
something closer to the ground.
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UMoney, Money Everywhere
But how can it be that there’s too much capital trying to access so many markets at once? We
can understand investor capital flow ing from one market to another, but isn’t the total amount of
investment capital finite? Wher e does “more money” come from?
I think the amount of investment capital usually is rather fixed, (although many corporations are
making pension fund contributions to correct under-fundi ng), and in fact I don’t think there’s
really “more money everywhere.” It’s just th at no one wants to hold more cash at 1%, high
grades at 3-5% or stocks at 6-7% (after stocks tr eated investors so poorly in 2000-02, that’s
what most people think they’re now poised to return).
Thus I think the present situation is as follows:
There’s a given amount of money looking for a home.
Relatively little of it is going into mainstream stocks and bonds, the two biggest markets.
The redirection of that capita l to the smaller non-traditional markets has given rise to a
deluge capable of overwhelming those market s: driving up prices, lowering prospective
returns and rendering attractive investments scarce as hens’ teeth.
So it’s not that there’s that much more money around. It’s that would-be buyers are
optimistic, unafraid, undemanding in terms of return, and moving en masse to small asset
classes. Holders of assets, who play a part in se tting market prices by deciding where they’ll
sell, also are optimistic. The result is an una ppetizing, risk-tolerant, high-priced investment
landscape. It’s for times like this that my fa vorite Warren Buffett quotatio n is most appropriate:
“The less prudence with which others conduct th eir affairs, the greater the prudence with
which we must conduct our own affairs .”
UImplications for Investing
One way to improve investment results – which we try hard to apply at Oaktree – is to think
about what “today’s mistake” might be and try to avoid it. There are times in investing when
the likely mistake consists of:
not buying,
not buying enough,
not making one more bid in an auction,
holding too much cash,
not using enough leverage, or
not taking enough risk.
I don’t think that describes today. I’ve always heard that no one awaiti ng heart surgery ever
complained, “I wish I’d gone to the office more .” Well, likewise I don’ t think anyone in the
next few years is going to look back and say, “I wish I’d invested more in 2004.”
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Rather, I think this year’s mistake is going to turn out to be:
buying too much,
buying too aggressively,
making one bid too many,
using too much leverage, and
taking too much risk in the pur suit of superior returns.
There are times when the investi ng errors are of omission: the things you should have done but
didn’t. Today I think the errors are probably of commission: th e things you shouldn’t have done
but did. There are times for aggressiveness. I th ink this is a time for caution.
Not every investor has the option of holding a lot of cash. A pension fund has to pursue its
actuarial return, and too many years spent earnin g money market rates can ensure it won’t be
achieved. The same can be true for a foundation th at has to spend 5% of its assets each year,
and for an individual living on hi s or her investment income. But when I look today at the
smart people I know who have the ability to hold cash, I see large balances. As Warren Buffett
wrote in his 2003 Annual Report, “Our capital is underutilized now . . . . It’s a painful condition
to be in – but not as painful as doing something stupid.” There are times when big funds are a good thing – when the market power that comes with
more money is a help. I think this is genera lly a time for moderation in fund raising – a time
when the selectivity and agility that come with smallness will prove to be key. Still, some
managers are raising ever-larger funds and extending into new strategies on the back of recent
strong results. That doesn’t mean it’s smart to join the herd of participants. In my memo “What’s Your Game Plan” on investing and sports (September 5, 2003), I
mentioned the importance of “playing within yourse lf,” or “not trying to do things you’re not
capable of, or things that can’t be accomp lished within the environment as it exists.”
We simply cannot create investment opportuni ties when they’re not there. In its
first year, our newest distressed debt fund produced a 64% net IRR that’s eye-
popping . . . and impossible to replicate any time soon. So what should we do now? Rather than take profits and dist ribute the proceeds, should we prolong our
holding periods or try to repeat our ga ins in new positions? And would it be
smart to raise a big new fund? None of these, if the prospective returns on our
holdings are inadequate and new inve stment opportunities are limited. The
dumbest thing we could do is to insist on perpetuating our high returns – and
give back our profits in the process. If it’s not there, hoping won’t make it so.
All we ever can do is take what they give us.
No one wants to throw in the towel with regard to investment returns. No one likes to
admit that their intelligence and hard work won ’t be enough to get them to their target.
But at times when the market s are offering paltry absolu te returns and inadequate
compensation for bearing risk, it ’s the only thing to do.
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What’s the alternative? Deny the facts? Take on more risk in pursuit of high returns? Doing so
won’t help when prices are high and too much capital is jostling for admittance. The fact is
there are times when you have to stress cautio n, refuse to stretch for return, moderate
your expectations, and keep your head do wn. I think this is one of those.
By the way, I’m not saying all investments are priced too high and bound to collapse. I’m
saying most aren’t priced to give high returns or adequate risk compensation. Whether a
strong price correction is coming in a given market depends on the extent and speed with which
investors increase their return demands. Remember, there’s only one way for prospective
returns to increase quick ly: through a price correction. On the other hand, a slow and gradual
reassertion of prospective return can be accomplis hed through several year s of price stagnation.
Neither prospect, however, argues for aggressive investing today. As for individual asset classes,
The greatest excesses seem to be centered in some of the alternative investments to
which people have fled in search of return. Private equity, distressed debt, hedge funds
and others of that ilk are unlikely to prove the “silver bullets” that people are hoping for.
There’s no question that bonds of all stripes are fated to produce low returns – in fact,
the lowest long-term bond returns I’ve ever seen. When you’re talking about a 10% 10-
year bond, you can argue about whether the retu rn over the next few years will be 15%,
10%, 5% or zero. But when you’re talking about a 5% bond, the range by definition has to be significantly lower.
Finally, stocks are well down from their highs; their valuations have been rendered less
excessive by today’s generally higher corpor ate earnings; and they aren’t being borne
aloft by capital inflows. On the other hand, absolute p/e ratios are still high, supported
by the low level of interest rates, and th ere’s the risk of downward valuation when
people realize that the long-term return on stocks is likely to be driven by profits growth
in mid-single digits.
Taking all of the above into cons ideration, I feel this is a time when the route to investment
success may be via the “least bad” course of action. For over a year I’ve been telling the
boards on which I serve that I view the solu tion as “special niches, special people.”
Because the vast majority of asset classes are high priced and crowded, the key is to find
those that are less so. Similarly, it’s important to choose man agers with enough talent and
discipline to make the most of the current situation.
None of my observations is sure to be right, as always, but I want to share my thinking about
what’s going on in the investment markets today. October 27, 2004
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